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Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:06 pm
by sgtcall
Herb wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:56 pm
The first thing I would try is bleeding the clutch. It is the simplest and cheapest thing to try.
:funnylast:

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:01 pm
by hillsy v2
Yeah - I agree that bleeding would be the first thing to try. Did you take the pressure plate off? If so check you put it back in the right way. Not 100% on the 1400's but a lot of bikes need the plate to go back in the right spot.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:44 am
by Designer
Herb wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:56 pm
The first thing I would try is bleeding the clutch. It is the simplest and cheapest thing to try.
Yep,...what Herb says. :space: Start trouble-shooting fixes with the easiest and most logical thing first. :wink:

And,.....just to make sure ALL the Air is out,....here is a technique that is proven effective;
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Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:58 am
by navigator
hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:01 pm
Yeah - I agree that bleeding would be the first thing to try. Did you take the pressure plate off? If so check you put it back in the right way. Not 100% on the 1400's but a lot of bikes need the plate to go back in the right spot.
Yea, need more info...did you pull the discs? the wave washer has a certain orientation, and the thick disc goes on first.
Are the bolts and springs in the proper location? The bolts are different lengths.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:17 pm
by hillsy v2
It's more than likely something on the clutch basket side because you shouldn't need to touch the slave or MC if you are just doing the springs.

Nav's right that we need more info. I'm guessing he's taken out the discs to have a look at them seeing he was considering changing them in the first place.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:18 pm
by Aaron1085
I did pull the disks out just for inspection, also sure I got the springs and bolts in correctly, long springs and bolts to the clutch basket and the others to the spring slider. I did manage to get it to shift up into 2nd and 3rd gears just running up and down the street, when it shifts it feels way better. that's why I figure there must be more air in my clutch lines, i would love to find a stock clutch master to put back on the stock levers, I have some cheap amazon masters on atm.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:08 pm
by hillsy v2
Aaron1085 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:18 pm
I have some cheap amazon masters on atm.
The clutch might be too small bore size, perhaps?

But yeah - try a thorough bleed first.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:44 pm
by Designer
Aaron1085 wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:18 pm
I did pull the disks out just for inspection, also sure I got the springs and bolts in correctly, long springs and bolts to the clutch basket and the others to the spring slider. I did manage to get it to shift up into 2nd and 3rd gears just running up and down the street, when it shifts it feels way better. that's why I figure there must be more air in my clutch lines, i would love to find a stock clutch master to put back on the stock levers, I have some cheap amazon masters on atm.
Thanks for the updated info! :space: Good to know it's not likely something on the clutch basket side.
Sometimes when just doing the stronger springs, that can bring out a "weakness" in the Hydraulic System.

We look forwards to what you get after performing the System Bleed like Herb had first mentioned.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:54 pm
by Aaron1085
I just wanted to thank everyone for all the input. I ended up figuring out my seals in my clutch master were leaking. I had some other older unused masters laying around that had the same bore and stroke. Pulled one apart and switched out the piston and return spring. Pumped it up and it built pressure way quicker than it had previously. She is back on the road. And shifts smooth as butter with the new springs in the clutch.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:48 pm
by sgtcall
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Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:10 pm
by Herb
Thank you for the update.

Re: Clutch Change

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:19 am
by Designer
Now that's Great News!

Good that you had a stash of others to fall back on for free parts. ( that' the right price, eh)

Got any pictures of your Back-On-The-Road Bad Boy?