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As with most ALL of 'science'...As we learn more,...the once proclaimed "absolute laws".......are found to not be so.

I never did buy into the big bang theory...


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I'm not convinced either. It's either a deficiency in the postulator or in my ability to absorb the unexplainable. My head hurts.

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Even your little picture is incorrect. It was far more than a billion ago and what is BC for. That was just 2000 years ago.

Your picture depicts an explosion leaving in its wake the universe. You do not understand do you.

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JFL Live wrote: I never did buy into the big bang theory...
Fred wrote: ... You should take time to learn of the wonderful world you live in, it is fantastic. ... You do not understand do you.
C'mon Fred. Can't you at least try to contribute without the personal slights? Eh? There's really no need for that. :cheers:

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Fred wrote:Even your little picture is incorrect. It was far more than a billion ago and what is BC for. That was just 2000 years ago.

Your picture depicts an explosion leaving in its wake the universe. You do not understand do you.

What...? You're saying my little picture doesn't accurately represent the beginning of space and time and the modern universe as we know it today? :blink:











Do you know how many hours I spent on google looking for that? :donno:
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JFL Live wrote:
Fred wrote:Even your little picture is incorrect. It was far more than a billion ago and what is BC for. That was just 2000 years ago.

Your picture depicts an explosion leaving in its wake the universe. You do not understand do you.

What...? You're saying my little picture doesn't accurately represent the beginning of space and time and the modern universe as we know it today? :blink:

Dont get your knickers twisted. Your little picture does not represent the big bang and what happened. Don't worry lots of people don't understand. Its easier to believe in fairies.

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Dont get your knickers twisted. Your little picture does not represent the big bang and what happened. Don't worry lots of people don't understand. Its easier to believe in fairies.

You really need to work on your sense of humor.

And in the mean time, might I suggest some light reading... [emoji41]


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JFL Live wrote:
Fred wrote:
Dont get your knickers twisted. Your little picture does not represent the big bang and what happened. Don't worry lots of people don't understand. Its easier to believe in fairies.

You need to work on your sense of humor.

And in the mean time, might I suggest some light reading...


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emc what the hell is emc that means nothing.

Sorry about the humour thing, to be honest ive tried it but :ahha: it does'nt turn me on.

I get this empty feeling of space.

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Fred wrote:
JFL Live wrote:
Fred wrote:
Dont get your knickers twisted. Your little picture does not represent the big bang and what happened. Don't worry lots of people don't understand. Its easier to believe in fairies.

You need to work on your sense of humor.

And in the mean time, might I suggest some light reading...


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emc what the hell is emc that means nothing.

Sorry about the humour thing, to be honest ive tried it but :ahha: it does'nt turn me on.

I get this empty feeling of space.
Energy equals Mass times a Constant squared. Dont ask me what that means though. ;IDunno: :lol:
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Well no it is Energy equals mass times the speed of light to 10 to the power of 8 or is it 8 to the power of 10.

It basically explains how a hammer works on a nail,-- it does'nt matter. :lmao:

BUT the speed of light is under scrutiny which is how we got here. So if C is a constant ---well it aint no more. And so it should be, if I see it correctly the speed of the hammer can be fast or slow.

Energy to move the nail = mass of the hammer times the speed of the hammer in light years times 8 to the power of 10.

Im not very good at maths. Im sure some one will explain why I am wrong.

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Fred wrote:
Im not very good at maths. Im sure some one will explain why I am wrong.
I'm not either. But squared () means "multiplied by itself", I got that much outta school. Not much else. [emoji2]

The speed of light is used as a constant sometimes but it is actually more of an absolute, in some senses. For the purposes of relativity it means the speed of light in a vacuum, the 186,000 miles per second you are familiar with. But light can move slower, much slower actually.

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How can it move slower!! you mean if the batteries are down.

Ive never understood that if light has no mass and it does'nt or you would be thrown back wards when you turned on your flash light then why can light net escape a black hole.

Gravity has no pull where there is no mass or weight.

Ever seen 2 ships get stuck together by gravity of each others mass.

Doing my head in --off to bed :bonk:

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Fred wrote:How can it move slower!! you mean if the batteries are down.

Ive never understood that if light has no mass and it does'nt or you would be thrown back wards when you turned on your flash light then why can light net escape a black hole.

Gravity has no pull where there is no mass or weight.

Ever seen 2 ships get stuck together by gravity of each others mass.

Doing my head in --off to bed :bonk:
Actually when that happens to ships it's because of two things, neither of them gravity or mass per se, but rather how they affect the surface of the water, and, more commonly and when in motion in a shallow channel (which is where you're likely to see such side-to side collisions, in canals and shallow ports), there is a specific hydrodynamic effect that actually makes the ship create a hole in the water it sits in, due to displaced water having to move between the channel bottom and the hull at higher speed to get out of the way....some has to displace to the sides, which creates a low spot in the water surface, as there's just not as much water under and around the hull as there would be at rest. When two such ships get close enough that their divots join, so will their hulls, it's inevitable. They get forced together like Cheerios floating on milk. Which is actually dictated by barometric pressure's action on the surface shape, another story though...

Anyway the speed of light is dictated by what it is passing through. Like I said, the oft quoted speed is really just an absolute in perfect vacuum. Many factors can affect the actual speed.

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Fred wrote:How can it move slower!! you mean if the batteries are down.

Ive never understood that if light has no mass and it does'nt or you would be thrown back wards when you turned on your flash light then why can light net escape a black hole.

Gravity has no pull where there is no mass or weight.

Ever seen 2 ships get stuck together by gravity of each others mass.

Doing my head in --off to bed :bonk:
Light is made up of "photons" they are subatomic particles of electromagnetic energy, they have zero mass when they are not in motion, and they are so small that despite moving literally at the speed of light their force (mass time velocity squared) is negligible. iirc it has something to do with the movement of electrons when energized, they get into an "highly excited state" and throw off excess energy.
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Anyway the speed of light is dictated by what it is passing through. Like I said, the oft quoted speed is really just an absolute in perfect vacuum. Many factors can affect the actual speed.
Or you could use the force...


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Anyway the speed of light is dictated by what it is passing through. Like I said, the oft quoted speed is really just an absolute in perfect vacuum. Many factors can affect the actual speed.
WHOA! :lolfall: Now, don’t get all defensive, Jeffco, but that seems to be intellectual gobbledegook! If I aim my headlights at your front door, just how long will it take for the high beams to penetrate that medium? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Of course speed of light is measured in the vacuum of outer space! Where else, your bathroom? And just what factors affect ACTUAL speed? Yeah, I know, mention light being sucked into a black hole or something else irrelevant to earthly reality! Good grief!

You know what I think? Not that you give a shit, but I think Hawking contributed not one stinking infinitesimal iota of information that relates to my life or that of anyone I know. That’s what! :OhNo;

And, just as an aside... twins, identical. One spends a considerable time in orbit. Now he no longer shares same genetic code as his twin. This has just been disclosed. Extrapolate... boys and girls on their way to Mars, colonists. During the ride their genetic code is damaged. Can you imagine the freaking mutants that will be born on Mars? It will be the true origin of little green men! :lmao: Mars! What a joke! Robots landed there and desperately dug holes looking for proof of life and water, and they sent back pictures of a freaking wasteland! :lmao: And that’s where the brainiacs want to go for escape from impending Earthly doom? That whole mars bit is a joke, a very ludicrous one. Remember I said that the Musk effort at space ships would ultimately be co-opted for military reasons? Already happening as President Trump and ol Elon get chummy with talk of a Space Force. There will be efforts at Mars, but only robotic and with military intent in a brand new international space race.

Intellect is subjective at best. It will never supplant the necessary objectivity of common sense.

And sci-fi nonsense is good for what some call giggles and shits, nothing else.
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jeffcoslacker wrote:
Anyway the speed of light is dictated by what it is passing through. Like I said, the oft quoted speed is really just an absolute in perfect vacuum. Many factors can affect the actual speed.
WHOA! :lolfall: Now, don’t get all defensive, Jeffco, but that seems to be intellectual gobbledegook! If I aim my headlights at your front door, just how long will it take for the high beams to penetrate that medium? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Of course speed of light is measured in the vacuum of outer space! Where else, your bathroom? And just what factors affect ACTUAL speed? Yeah, I know, mention light being sucked into a black hole or something else irrelevant to earthly reality! Good grief!

You know what I think? Not that you give a shit, but I think Hawking contributed not one stinking infinitesimal iota of information that relates to my life or that of anyone I know. That’s what! :OhNo;

And, just as an aside... twins, identical. One spends a considerable time in orbit. Now he no longer shares same genetic code as his twin. This has just been disclosed. Extrapolate... boys and girls on their way to Mars, colonists. During the ride their genetic code is damaged. Can you imagine the freaking mutants that will be born on Mars? It will be the true origin of little green men! :lmao: Mars! What a joke! Robots landed there and desperately dug holes looking for proof of life and water, and they sent back pictures of a freaking wasteland! :lmao: And that’s where the brainiacs want to go for escape from impending Earthly doom? That whole mars bit is a joke, a very ludicrous one. Remember I said that the Musk effort at space ships would ultimately be co-opted for military reasons? Already happening as President Trump and ol Elon get chummy with talk of a Space Force. There will be efforts at Mars, but only robotic and with military intent in a brand new international space race.

Intellect is subjective at best. It will never supplant the necessary objectivity of common sense.

And sci-fi nonsense is good for what some call giggles and shits, nothing else.

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jeffcoslacker wrote:
Anyway the speed of light is dictated by what it is passing through. Like I said, the oft quoted speed is really just an absolute in perfect vacuum. Many factors can affect the actual speed.
WHOA! :lolfall: Now, don’t get all defensive, Jeffco, but that seems to be intellectual gobbledegook! If I aim my headlights at your front door, just how long will it take for the high beams to penetrate that medium? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Of course speed of light is measured in the vacuum of outer space! Where else, your bathroom? And just what factors affect ACTUAL speed? Yeah, I know, mention light being sucked into a black hole or something else irrelevant to earthly reality! Good grief!

You know what I think? Not that you give a shit, but I think Hawking contributed not one stinking infinitesimal iota of information that relates to my life or that of anyone I know. That’s what! :OhNo;

And, just as an aside... twins, identical. One spends a considerable time in orbit. Now he no longer shares same genetic code as his twin. This has just been disclosed. Extrapolate... boys and girls on their way to Mars, colonists. During the ride their genetic code is damaged. Can you imagine the freaking mutants that will be born on Mars? It will be the true origin of little green men! :lmao: Mars! What a joke! Robots landed there and desperately dug holes looking for proof of life and water, and they sent back pictures of a freaking wasteland! :lmao: And that’s where the brainiacs want to go for escape from impending Earthly doom? That whole mars bit is a joke, a very ludicrous one. Remember I said that the Musk effort at space ships would ultimately be co-opted for military reasons? Already happening as President Trump and ol Elon get chummy with talk of a Space Force. There will be efforts at Mars, but only robotic and with military intent in a brand new international space race.

Intellect is subjective at best. It will never supplant the necessary objectivity of common sense.

And sci-fi nonsense is good for what some call giggles and shits, nothing else.
Monumental effort, but the act is growing weary. :donno:

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Another one of my posts deleted by MC I have no idea why so why do it. Why dont you say why its been deleted and then you can lock the thread and show us how powerful you are.

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Fred wrote:Another one of my posts deleted by MC I have no idea why so why do it. Why dont you say why its been deleted and then you can lock the thread and show us how powerful you are.
You have no idea why I delete your personal attacks?

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