This is interesting

[MattSunn]

http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/10 ... -have.html

[Herb]

good article. It is saying what I have been saying since the "green" movement got started.

It isn't about the environment, it is about control of the people.

[Tbeck]

Herb, the article says it's about money and if there's anyone who doesn't already know that they should stay buried.
EVERYTHING is about the money, who has it and how they can get more. Those who can dictate the direction of industry, development, get in early and reap the $$$ rewards.
Ask yourself how these Congressmen become multi millionaires on the money they get paid? Biden for example owns 4+ multimillion dollar home's and has millions in assets and $$$. How did he do this on a senators salary? We all know about his overseas deals, but that's only the top of the iceberg.
You could pick any 2nd or 3rd term congressman and you'd find the same crooked money flowing into their pockets.
I've said it before but it beats repeating, the PARTIES make all the crooked crap possible. They take in and distribute all the crooked money, they decide who the choices are for offices and who you get to vote for.
So we can term limit but that won't fix anything. Want a fix you have to eliminate primaries so come election day those elected represent the people's vote, not the party.
Anyhow as long as there's money to be made from pandering to special interest, it will continue.

PS... the aforementioned is only a drop with regards to getting back some say in government

[Levenhawks]

I believe that term limits would fix most things.

[Levenhawks]

We have members in congress and senate who have been there for thirty-forty- or fifty years and do they represent the people who have elected them? There are people there that are so so freaking old that they don’t even know their own last name. And they represent us? Really? They do nothing but fill their bank accounts with money. Fire them all.

[Levenhawks]

25% of people who are eligible to vote do actually vote.it’s our own fault.

[HARRIS]

POLITICS IS DRIVEN MY MONEY AND POWER, AND THE CHANCE TO GET MORE. IT'S SELF SERVING.

AND AS SOON AS ONE WINS, THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE TO SECURE MORE ...

[Tbeck]

Levenhawks, term limits would only cure a very small part of the problems. We'd basically be swapping out one grafter for another. Don't get me wrong, I agree that term limits should exist (max 2 terms) but the problem runs much deeper.
Ask yourself who trains the new congress members? Same party affiliated bureaucrats that trained all the folks who came before.
Next ask yourself why you are GIVEN a choice between just 2 candidates,one Dem and one Republican. Yes I excluded the independent candidates because they rarely have a chance. So the PARTIES are really limiting your choices, why? It doesn't benefit you so why is this done?

[Levenhawks]

It really doesn’t matter. Most of them are the uniparty. There are a few exceptions.

[Tbeck]

I think that you are missing the big picture. PARTIES are only concerned with what is best for the party, and since the bureaucrats training everyone are the main component of the party, nothing will change.

Prior to the 1970's you basically had 2 types of congress members; extreme left, and extreme right. This meant that any laws coming out of DC were a compromise because something NEEDED addressed. However we now have a group in DC that is firmly planted in the middle, ALL of them. Their sole purpose is to pass anything that will get them reelected, aka more graft.

[Levenhawks]

Correct Tbeck. Although you explained it in a lot more detail than me, that’s pretty much what I said.

[Herb]

To anyone that thinks party doesn't matter, take a look at the difference in the country between 2019 and today.

Go ahead and let a bunch more of the socialist dims get elected and see how much worse it can get.

[Levenhawks]

The Republicans have a majority in congress and they have still been giving away the farm.

[Herb]

The Republicans have a majority in congress and they have still been giving away the farm.

Not disagreeing with that but they have managed to rein in some of the worst things. So we just need to get more Jim Jordens and Mat Gaetzs elected and get rid of the McCarthys and Scalises. STOP funding the state and national republican committees that always seem to support rinos.

[Herb]

This is the kind of republican we need and it is doubtful that the AZ state or National GOP committees will support her. Those committees always seem to support rinos.

https://americanjournaldaily.com/rising ... newsletter

[Levenhawks]

I agree. 100%.

[Tbeck]

Lake? and she's another great example of what NOT to elect.
However something stated goes to what I have been saying; "it's doubtful the GOP will support her." The PARTY!!!!

If you REALLY want to change DC it starts with forgetting about what PARTY the candidate is representing. What the country REALLY needs is a grass roots initiative to vote OUT the incumbents. Five election cycles and you have a clean slate, you've eliminated party power, and you can finally get some legislation passed that will break up the hold special interest and parties have.
HOWEVER, it's not likely to happen because people can't seem to see that their party allegiance is THE biggest problem.