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Age of elected officials
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:50 pm
by Herb
I think that 70 when sworn into office would be a reasonable age limit. I know that there are a lot of people in their 90s that are still doing well but the chances of a debilitating medical incident goes up exponentially as a person passes 70. Senator feinstein is a classic example of a medical incident that prevents a person doing their job.
What do you all think?
https://theconservativeview.com/musk-ca ... l-episode/
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:38 am
by Designer
I tend to agree.
there CERTAINLY MUST be a MANDATORY testing of cognitive abilities when we see the OBVIOUS signs of failures such as with this Fetterman moron,...Feinstein cadaver,.....Biden walking embalmed idiot....
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:30 am
by Herb
The trouble with cognitive testing is that it is too subjective... And the people are too easily bribed. That has been proved by the statements from the demented ones doctors.
I think an age limit is the best alternative.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:56 am
by sgtcall
I can't remember who it was but I once watched part of a debate on raising the retirement age. A congressman used the fact that so many of his fellow congressmen were still working in their 70s and 80s as an example of why they should raise the age. My argument is that there is a difference in working a desk job and a labor job so his example was bullshit. When you have these elitists old people in office they think that everyone should think like they do. The simple fact is there comes a point in life when people need to relax and be grandparents not try to make laws that affect the greater population.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:18 am
by Herb
sgtcall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:56 am
I can't remember who it was but I once watched part of a debate on raising the retirement age. A congressman used the fact that so many of his fellow congressmen were still working in their 70s and 80s as an example of why they should raise the age. My argument is that there is a difference in working a desk job and a labor job so his example was bullshit. When you have these elitists old people in office they think that everyone should think like they do. The simple fact is there comes a point in life when people need to relax and be grandparents not try to make laws that affect the greater population.
+1 
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:30 am
by Designer
Herb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:30 am
The trouble with cognitive testing is that it is too subjective... And the people are too easily bribed.
Simple!
Put ME in charge of evaluation!
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:15 pm
by hillsy v2
Designer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:30 am
Herb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:30 am
The trouble with cognitive testing is that it is too subjective... And the people are too easily bribed.
Simple!
Put ME in charge of evaluation!
You'd be too old. Refer to first post.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:37 pm
by Yooper
Herb wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:50 pm
I think that 70 when sworn into office would be a reasonable age limit. I know that there are a lot of people in their 90s that are still doing well but the chances of a debilitating medical incident goes up exponentially as a person passes 70. Senator feinstein is a classic example of a medical incident that prevents a person doing their job.
What do you all think?
https://theconservativeview.com/musk-ca ... l-episode/
I agree with Herb and sgtcall. I'm approaching 76, tough labor most of my life as a logger. I know it sounds weird, but I'm tracking and monitoring my own decline. I always loved crossword puzzles, logic problems, trivia etc. I've proven to myself that I can't do these things near as well as I did in previous years.
The folks that say you won't realize you are declining are mistaken. Actually, it's one of the problems in my life I can do nothing about. So I have the attitude that I know what's happening and pretty much say fuck it. Still here taking care of myself.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:10 pm
by Herb
I agree. I am 73 and see the decline, so does my wife and she reminds me everytime I forget something.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:57 pm
by sgtcall
Herb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:10 pm
I agree. I am 73 and see the decline, so does my wife and she reminds me everytime I forget something.
As far as I know I never forget anything.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:59 pm
by Herb
sgtcall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:57 pm
Herb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:10 pm
I agree. I am 73 and see the decline, so does my wife and she reminds me everytime I forget something.
As far as I know I never forget anything.
That is the best thing about losing memory, you don't remember what you forgot...
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:18 pm
by sgtcall
Since I am getting older, this is my next car.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:05 pm
by Designer
Designer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:30 am
Herb wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:30 am
The trouble with cognitive testing is that it is too subjective... And the people are too easily bribed.
Simple!
Put ME in charge of evaluation!
Nope.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:51 pm
by Tbeck
They shouldn't be holding office beyond age 67 in my opinion and they need to be limited to two terms.
Never believed in either of the aforementioned in the past but it's clear that the people are too stupid to vote out congressmen. So it should be no different than the president's office, two terms
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:38 pm
by sgtcall
Tbeck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:51 pm
They shouldn't be holding office beyond age 67 in my opinion and they need to be limited to two terms.
Never believed in either of the aforementioned in the past but it's clear that the people are too stupid to vote out congressmen. So it should be no different than the president's office, two terms
I would like to see either 2 or 3 terms and if they want more they need to run for the other part of congress. Meaning a senator could do 2 terms then run for the House, or the other way around, for another 2 terms.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:12 pm
by Herb
sgtcall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:38 pm
Tbeck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:51 pm
They shouldn't be holding office beyond age 67 in my opinion and they need to be limited to two terms.
Never believed in either of the aforementioned in the past but it's clear that the people are too stupid to vote out congressmen. So it should be no different than the president's office, two terms
I would like to see either 2 or 3 terms and if they want more they need to run for the other part of congress. Meaning a senator could do 2 terms then run for the House, or the other way around, for another 2 terms.
Total of 12 years in ALL government political offices... With a max age at the last swearing in of 70.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:22 am
by Designer
Herb wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:12 pm
sgtcall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:38 pm
I would like to see either 2 or 3 terms and if they want more they need to run for the other part of congress. Meaning a senator could do 2 terms then run for the House, or the other way around, for another 2 terms.
Total of 12 years in ALL government political offices... With a max age at the last swearing in of 70.
Either one of these seems to be the more Realistically Reasonable of suggestions to me.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:42 am
by sgtcall
Herb wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:12 pm
sgtcall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:38 pm
Tbeck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:51 pm
They shouldn't be holding office beyond age 67 in my opinion and they need to be limited to two terms.
Never believed in either of the aforementioned in the past but it's clear that the people are too stupid to vote out congressmen. So it should be no different than the president's office, two terms
I would like to see either 2 or 3 terms and if they want more they need to run for the other part of congress. Meaning a senator could do 2 terms then run for the House, or the other way around, for another 2 terms.
Total of 12 years in ALL government political offices... With a max age at the last swearing in of 70.
12 years would be a little limiting since a Senate term is 6 years. If a senator wanted to run for President he or she would have to do it after their first term and would only be able to serve one term as President. Also do you mean federal government offices, what about people that hold state office then move to federal office?
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:49 am
by Herb
sgtcall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:42 am
Herb wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:12 pm
sgtcall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:38 pm
Tbeck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:51 pm
They shouldn't be holding office beyond age 67 in my opinion and they need to be limited to two terms.
Never believed in either of the aforementioned in the past but it's clear that the people are too stupid to vote out congressmen. So it should be no different than the president's office, two terms
I would like to see either 2 or 3 terms and if they want more they need to run for the other part of congress. Meaning a senator could do 2 terms then run for the House, or the other way around, for another 2 terms.
Total of 12 years in ALL government political offices... With a max age at the last swearing in of 70.
12 years would be a little limiting since a Senate term is 6 years. If a senator wanted to run for President he or she would have to do it after their first term and would only be able to serve one term as President. Also do you mean federal government offices, what about people that hold state office then move to federal office?
The state offices would have no impact, only federal offices. The states will have to take care of their own.
The president is restricted to 8 years, I say 12 because that is the same as 2 terms as a senator and 4 terms as a congressman.
I really don't care about a person working for higher office, the point is to limit the impact that longevity in office has.
Re: Age of elected officials
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:57 am
by Tbeck
All good suggestions BUT there's an underlying reason for 2 term limits.
First of all it limit's pandering to corporate interests. Two terms simply isn't enough for corporate investment.
The second reason is just if not more important; public funded pensions. Limit to two and no pension from the taxpayers.
Herb, 70 sounds reasonable for getting them out, but not in JMO. Couple reasons for my thoughts; health and understanding of the constituents. A 70 year old and our particular interests for government aren't too far apart. However 70 and 25 are miles apart. Again JMO