renewable energy

[hillsy v2]

A wind turbine recoups the energy required to build them within a year. Even if you DID have to replace the WHOLE UNIT every 3-4 years you are FAR ahead of any fossil fueled alternative.

Good gear, eh??

[Designer]

A wind turbine recoups the energy required to build them within a year. Even if you DID have to replace the WHOLE UNIT every 3-4 years you are FAR ahead of any fossil fueled alternative.

Yes DevilsFan,...isn't hillsy THE modt gullible, Dumb-sucking idiot there is!

Hey hillsy-turd,...seems your failing mind has forgotten,.....so, prepare to get your face washed with your SHIT alllll over again!

Wind energy has such a HORRIBLE carbon foot print,...it is SICKENING. And Solar isn't much better, if at all.

Where do you get this BS from? Are you talking about the energy to create both sources? It's offset by the non-carbon energy they produce.

Get ready to have your face shoved in your SHIT AGAIN !!!

The dishonesty mentioned in the Article about the lifespans sued in calculating the benefits of these Wind Mills is rather telling!

What is also Not Figured in the "Rosy Picture" painted by the Alternative Energy Zealots is,...... The Energy used in mining of raw material for for each individual material that goes into these wind mills... (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.)..... and The Energy used in transportation of these Raw Materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.). to processing facilities,......and The Energy used in the processing of those raw materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).into what is needed to make all those many thousands of parts for the wind mills,......and The Energy used in the transportation of those processed materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).to the Wind Mill manufacturing plants,.....and and The Energy used in the manufacturing processes of those wind mill parts (made from Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).,.......and then and The Energy used in the transportation and installation of those assembled many parts to the installation Locations.

Not to mention all the same Carbon Emitting Energy expenditures for all the parts for the Electrical Grid that has to be made. . The Energy used in mining of raw material for for each individual material that goes into these Power Towers & Wire (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.)..... and The Energy used in transportation of these Raw Materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.). to processing facilities,......and The Energy used in the processing of those raw materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).into what is needed to make all those many parts for the Power Wire Towers and Wiring ,......and The Energy used in the transportation of those processed materials (Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).to the Tower/ Wire manufacturing plants,.....and and The Energy used in the manufacturing processes of those Tower/Wire parts (made from Steel, Copper, Plastic(s), Fiberglass, Adhesives, Metal Plating Material, Concrete, Etc.).,.......and then and The Energy used in the transportation and installation of those assembled many parts to the installation Locations.

All that energy consumption would needs be considered and factored IF one is to be honest when evaluating whether there are any Actual energy savings.

This does not include The Energy used in the Maintenance and repairs to this STUPID wind machine....and The Energy used AND Environment costs of Disposing of the worn out parts and BLADES.


You are an IDIOT.

[hillsy v2]

Hey Springy - why don't you do some research on this instead of running your mouth off with all the garbage about costs to build the generators?

A wind turbine recoups the energy required to build them within a year. Even if you DID have to replace the WHOLE UNIT every 3-4 years you are FAR ahead of any fossil fueled alternative.

Look it up....and shut the fuck up

[Designer]

Hey Springy - why don't you do some research on this instead of running your mouth off with all the garbage about costs to build the generators?

A wind turbine recoups the energy required to build them within a year. Even if you DID have to replace the WHOLE UNIT every 3-4 years you are FAR ahead of any fossil fueled alternative.

Look it up....and shut the fuck up

Post your bullshit,...asshole

[hillsy v2]

Hey Springy - why don't you do some research on this instead of running your mouth off with all the garbage about costs to build the generators?

A wind turbine recoups the energy required to build them within a year. Even if you DID have to replace the WHOLE UNIT every 3-4 years you are FAR ahead of any fossil fueled alternative.

Look it up....and shut the fuck up

Post your bullshit,...asshole

It's not bullshit - it's FACT.

There a gazillion sources that confirm the energy recoup on a wind turbine is less than 12 months. Here's just a few:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 093317.htm

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/wind ... 0operation

https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/m ... d-turbine/

Try and keep up, will ya? FB is not the place to source actual facts - although maybe it is for YOU....

You should probably go to bed and try to sleep off your stupid....

[Designer]

All bullshit,...TURD. NONE of those articles shows THE DETAILED FIGURING that goes into their.."claim".

NONE!

All they basically do is say it is so.....NO DETAILED ENUMERATION OF THE COMPARATIVE FACTS and FIGURES TO BACK IT UP.

And had you more than just SHIT FOR BRAINS....you'd realize these are the same people who say these sucking things last 20 years....which we see herein....IS ANOTHER LIE!!

And that you were even MORE WRONG when you posted this bullshit of yours;

Which makes this here yet another bogus claim by you and your "green energy" fanatics;

Nice stats and all but shame it's BS - wind generators last 20-25 years.

THE FACT that you WERE WRONG about the .."lasting 20 years"... is further corroborated by WHAT YOU POSTED;

HAS ANYONE EVER ASKED IF THE DUTCH STILL RELY ON WINDMILLS FOR POWER ?? SAME QUESTION ABOUT WOODEN SHOES TOO ...

They gave up on windmills because the gearboxes kept breaking.

...oh, and..... ....and,...did I mention?......

[hillsy v2]

Hasn't got a fkn clue..

Uses FB for his facts....

[Designer]

OH LOOK! ....It's Our Resident Ignorant Asshole who is Sofa King Gullible as to believe the "gazillions" ..... who have lied to him about..... .."lasting 20 years".
Mr. Gullible is such an easy target,...tell us more about how the Amazon Rainforest is "the Earths Lungs " you believed when you were told.


After that Mr. "has no clue"....Show us all the FACTS AND FIGURES in your 3 links that back up the "claim" about payback in a year.

YOU CAN'T


See? Bitch-slapping hillsy-TURD is EASY! Just use FACTUAL REALITY...and he ends up looking A TOTAL ASS!

[Designer]

Now that hillsy TURD has been shown THE GULLIBLE ASS he so good at being,...let's get back to the HORRORS of these putrid contraptions perpetrate on the environment.

Turns out there is AMPLE evidence that whales ARE being affected/killed by offshore wind industrial complexes...been known for YEARS NOW;

Are wind turbines killing whales?
By Paul Driessen |March 4th, 2016|

Between January 9 and February 4 this year, 29 sperm whales got stranded and died on English, German and Dutch beaches. Environmentalists and the news media offered multiple explanations – except the most obvious and likely one: offshore wind farms.

Indeed, that area has the world’s biggest concentration of offshore wind turbines, and there is ample evidence that their acoustic pollution can interfere with whale communication and navigation.

However, Britain’s Guardian looked for answers everywhere but in the right place. That’s not surprising, as it tends to support wind energy no matter the cost to people or the environment. After consulting with a marine environmental group, the paper concluded: “The North Sea acts as a trap.… It’s virtually impossible for [whales] to find their way out through the narrow English Channel.”

No it’s not. These intelligent animals would naturally have found their way to and through the Channel by simply following the coast of England or continental Europe. But the author seems determined to pursue his “explanation,” even when it becomes increasingly illogical. “The [trapped] whales become dehydrated because they obtain their water from squid,” he argues, before acknowledging that “the dead Dutch and German animals were well-fed,” and that the North Sea’s squid population has increased in recent years.

The article discards Royal Navy sonar and explosives, because “big naval exercises in UK waters are unusual in midwinter.” Finally, the author concludes with this quote from his purported expert: “When there’s a mass stranding, it’s always wise to look at possible human effects. But, at the moment, I don’t see anything pointing in that direction.” He should look a bit harder. Not everyone is so blind.

Indeed, “researchers at the University of St. Andrews have found that the noise made by offshore wind farms can interfere with a whale’s sonar, and can in tragic cases see them driven onto beaches where they often die,” a UK Daily Mail article observed.

It is certainly possible that permanent damage to the cetaceans’ middle and inner ears, and thus to their built-in sonar, can result from large air guns used during seismic surveys and from violent bursts of noise associated with pilings being rammed into the rock bed. Wind promoters themselves admit that their pile-driving can be heard up to 50 miles (80 kilometers) underwater, and can be harmful to whales that happen to be nearby. But unless these injuries cause external bleeding, they are very difficult to detect.

Natural phenomena such as seaquakes, underwater volcanic eruptions and meteorites crashing into the oceans have likely been the cause of whale beachings throughout history, by injuring the animals’ inner ears and sonar organs, frightening and disorienting them, and causing them to seek refuge in shallow waters. In more recent years, “military exercises using mid-frequency sonar have been linked quite clearly to the disorientation and death of beaked whales,” says The Guardian.

Low frequency sonar can be even more dangerous, the Natural Resource Defense Council asserts. “Some systems operate at more than 235 decibels,” the NRDC has said, “producing sound waves that can travel across tens or even hundreds of miles of ocean. During testing off the California coast, noise from the Navy’s main low-frequency sonar system was detected across the breadth of the northern Pacific Ocean.”

The U.S. Navy itself has recognized the danger that sonar systems represent for marine mammals. As reported in Science magazine: “In a landmark study, the U.S. Navy has concluded that it killed at least six whales in an accident involving common ship-based sonar. The finding, announced late last month by the Navy and the U.S. National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), may complicate Navy plans to field a powerful new sonar system designed to detect enemy submarines at long distances,” despite how important that system and its submarine and surface ship counterparts are for national security.

[hillsy v2]

Now that hillsy TURD has been shown THE GULLIBLE ASS he so good at being,..

You really are from another planet, aren't you?

You repost some garbage that was spawned on FaceBook over a year ago and then you have the stupidity to try and defend it with nothing but drivel outta your ass.

There must be a special level of dumbass for people like you. Maybe Dumb-signer?

[Designer]

Now that hillsy TURD has been shown THE GULLIBLE ASS he so good at being,..

You really are from another planet, aren't you? You repost some garbage that was spawned on FaceBook over a year ago and then you have the stupidity to try and defend it with nothing but drivel outta your ass. There must be a special level of dumbass for people like you. Maybe Dumb-signer?

Triggered much? Let's review your childish gullibility,....shall we?

1. climate crisis fanatics declare without ANY viable factual backup....."The amazon is the earths lungs"
hillsy says;....Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER!

We all know THE FACTS ended THAT one.



2. The green energy fanatics declare,... without ANY viable factual backup,...." wind turbines last 20 years"
hillsy says;......Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER

We all know how hillsy's own posting ended THAT one too.



3. The green energy fanatics declare,... without ANY viable factual backup,..."wind turbines payback in a year"
hillsy says;......Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER

We STILL do not see ANY ACCOUNTING FACTS from HizzSorryAzz that supports THAT one...

[hillsy v2]

How many strawmen can you muster?



Seriously Dumb-signer - where do you get your "facts" that wind generators only last 3-4 years? So far it's a meme on FB.

Where do you get your "facts" that wind generators DON'T recoup within 12 months? So far it's just outta your ass.

Happy to wait while you keep fkn dancing....

[Designer]

DANCING! Our resident LYINGEST LIAR is doing his BEST DANCE!!

And what a PERFORMANCE IT IS!

This is all true,...you dumb-suck gullible idiot....ALL of which makes YOU ...THE BOARD MORON!

Now that hillsy TURD has been shown THE GULLIBLE ASS he so good at being,.. Triggered much? Let's review your childish gullibility,....shall we?

1. climate crisis fanatics declare without ANY viable factual backup....."The amazon is the earths lungs"
hillsy says;....Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER!

We all know THE FACTS ended THAT one.



2. The green energy fanatics declare,... without ANY viable factual backup,...." wind turbines last 20 years"
hillsy says;......Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER

We all know how hillsy's own posting ended THAT one too.



3. The green energy fanatics declare,... without ANY viable factual backup,..."wind turbines payback in a year"
hillsy says;......Oh yes master......I am A BELIEVER

We STILL do not see ANY ACCOUNTING FACTS from HizzSorryAzz that supports THAT one...

[hillsy v2]

Yeah - just keep re-quoting your stupidity.

After 20 pages we'll all give up

[Designer]

Your weak attempt at deflection will not work...hillsy..
As you well know,...this laughable,. ."we will all give up"...line has not ever happened....and has NO possibility of happening here.

That is just you,...Deluding yourself as you WISH it would ....in blatantly idiotic notion that everyone will not see WHAT A REAL ASS YOU ARE.

[hillsy v2]

As you well know,...this laughable,. ."we will all give up"...line has not ever happened....and has NO possibility of happening here.

Are you fucking kidding me?

20 pages of re-quoting yourself is your GO TO on this forum. It's pretty much in EVERY thread you air your ass in.

People eventually give up because they can't be bothered to continually argue with a moron.

[Designer]

Desperate to evade facing that his claim of..."lasting twenty years"...has been found WRONG.....by his own hand!

And....Mr. idiot...... the only reason I repost some of that which I have said before is try to steer the discussion back ON TOPIC....as you endlessly repeat your FACTLESS Deflection like you just did above.

Occasionally I will address YOUR STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE when it's just Sofa King Obvious that it needs to be slapped down.

And not surprisingly,...that's when you post MORE of your FACTLESS deflection and evasion.

[hillsy v2]

Wind generators only last 3-4 years according to Facebook.

Oh - and according to Dumb-signer...

[Designer]

Wind generators only last 3-4 years according to Facebook.
Oh - and according to Dumb-signer...

I didn't say those words.

This is just you,... being the total asshole,...that you are so good at. Making up A LIE so as to deflect away from your HUGE FACE PLANT about them..."lasting 20 years"..
THE FACT that you WERE WRONG about the .."lasting 20 years"... is further corroborated by WHAT YOU POSTED;

HAS ANYONE EVER ASKED IF THE DUTCH STILL RELY ON WINDMILLS FOR POWER ?? SAME QUESTION ABOUT WOODEN SHOES TOO ...

They gave up on windmills because the gearboxes kept breaking.

BTW,...Mr. gullible,...where's THE DETAILED FIGURING in those 3 articles you posted links to claiming a "payback" in the first year of these sucking Bird Murdering wind turbines?..

[hillsy v2]

Wind generators only last 3-4 years according to Facebook.
Oh - and according to Dumb-signer...

I didn't say those words.

And now the denial.

Amazing