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Yep - this thread was dragged into the shitter pretty much at page one. Nowhere left for it to go except political. Most active folder on this forum anyway.

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hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:44 pm
Yep - this thread was dragged into the shitter pretty much at page one. Nowhere left for it to go except political. Most active folder on this forum anyway.
It should have been called Why EVs suck
Not different views
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm

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FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Probably shouldn't expect anything different to be honest.

Anyway - I went back to the start of the thread where some visionary was talking about removable / replaceable battery packs....

Lo and behold - they are already doing it for scooters in Taiwan....


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hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Probably shouldn't expect anything different to be honest.
Soo true
Some times I think some members want to argue about your favorite color

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FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:48 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Probably shouldn't expect anything different to be honest.
Soo true
Some times I think some members want to argue about your favorite color
Anything but motorcycles!

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hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:53 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:48 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Probably shouldn't expect anything different to be honest.
Soo true
Some times I think some members want to argue about your favorite color
Anything but motorcycles!

:lmao:
We could have done that here
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15010
could have been fun but wouldnt have been productive for a new member
Just as long as Im right

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hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:43 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Probably shouldn't expect anything different to be honest.

Anyway - I went back to the start of the thread where some visionary was talking about removable / replaceable battery packs....

Lo and behold - they are already doing it for scooters in Taiwan....

Good find and its about time
Should help to improve the life of the battery pack
One of the biggest failings is the cells in the battery pack
When 1 goes bad your stuck with the pecker in a post

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OK
I thought it was something else
So its an exchange
Convenient I guess but as another option for their scooters
Not so much a viable solution for failing battery packs

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FallenAngel wrote:
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Not so much a viable solution for failing battery packs
Well it is if you can remove and replace them :ShitGrinandThumb:

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hillsy v2 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:44 pm
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:09 pm
Not so much a viable solution for failing battery packs
Well it is if you can remove and replace them :ShitGrinandThumb:
I was referencing to the video

But You are correct it would be a leap forward

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For those who's narrow focus fails to see The Big Picture.

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FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Funny you should mention that.

I often get the same thing also after I posting factually accurate info that someone else doesn't 'like'. Guess that's because they get frustrated when they cannot refute it. :dunno:
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Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:35 am
FallenAngel wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:23 pm
I tried posting something positive and that was met with negativity and sarcasm
Funny you should mention that.

I often get the same thing also after I posting factually accurate info that someone else doesn't 'like'. Guess that's because they get frustrated when they cannot refute it. :dunno:
It's different with you. You post miles of cut n paste then when someone questions it you come back calling them names and re-pasting the same stuff for 20 pages. Most people then give up and leave.

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Leaving behind the complainers who just can't deal with The Facts when posted,...here's more Facts about these evs';

Ford Loses $1.3 Billion on Electric Vehicles in First Quarter of 2024, Delays Plans to Make More

OLIVIA RONDEAU 28 Apr 2024

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2024/04/ ... make-more/
Ford Motor Company reported a whopping $132,000 loss on each electric vehicle (EV) sold during the first three months of 2024, amassing a $1.3 billion loss.

The auto manufacturer’s electric vehicle unit revealed Thursday that they experienced a 20 percent decrease in sales volume and were forced to slash prices due to low consumer demand, CNN reported.

The revenue for Ford’s EV car, the Model e, plunged by 84 percent to about $100 million, which the company blamed on EV price cuts across the auto industry.

“That resulted in the $1.3 billion loss before interest and taxes (EBIT), and the massive per-vehicle loss in the Model e unit,” the publication noted.

The recent figures are part of a trend of loss for Ford, with their Model e reporting a full-year EBIT loss of $4.7 billion on the sale of 116,000 units. This is an average loss of $40,525 per vehicle — and even that is just a third of the per-vehicle loss seen in the first three months of 2024.

Now, company officials are estimating that their EV division will lose a grand total of $5 billion this year, up from $4.7 billion last year.

“Americans don’t want EVs at levels Biden’s climate hysteria require,” author and businessman Andy Puzder wrote on X. “Ford’s EV Q1 losses soared to $1.3 billion — a ridiculous $132,000 per EV sold. All Ford’s profits came from combustion engine vehicle sales. Collectivist policies destroy prosperity.”

Andy Puzder
@AndyPuzder Americans don’t want EVs at levels Biden’s climate hysteria require. Ford’s EV Q1 losses soared to $1.3 billion - a ridiculous $132,000 per EV sold. All Ford’s profits came from combustion engine vehicle sales. Collectivist policies destroy prosperity.

finance.yahoo.com Ford just reported a massive loss on every electric vehicle it sold Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion, or $132,000 for each of the 10,000 vehicles it sold in the first three months of the year, helping to...
5:13 AM • Apr 25, 2024


“This does not appear to be “sustainable,” said environmentalist Patrick Moore.

Patrick Moore
@EcoSenseNow Ford reports for the first quarter they lost $132,000 on every EV sold. This does not appear to be “sustainable”. https://joannenova.com.au/2024/04/ford- ... y-ev-sold/
10:28 PM • Apr 27, 2024

Energy and environmental science expert Steve Milloy called Ford’s loss a “massive EV disaster.”

Ford announced earlier this month that the company will delay producing two new electric models, opting for hybrid vehicles instead.

“Many companies rushed in too fast with E.V.s that were too expensive and there was not as much of a market for them as they thought,” Sam Abuelsamid, transportation and mobility analyst at research firm Guidehouse Insights, told the New York Times. “That’s made it a lot tougher to sell those vehicles.”
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https://rightnewswire.com/a-social-medi ... t=1274_rnw

A social media influencer revealed this painful reality about electric vehicle ownership
April 26, 2024 Cat2, Economy

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Making the switch to an electric vehicle is supposed to be a breeze according to proponents.

But going electric is filled with nothing but headaches.

And a social media influencer revealed this painful reality about electric vehicle ownership.

TikTok personality became a star talking to drivers
TikTok star Daniel MacDonald picked up more than 14 million followers on the Chinese-controlled social media app with a simple gimmick.

He would go up to the drivers of high-end luxury cars and ask them what they did for a living.

MacDonald has interviewed celebrities like President Joe Biden while driving an electric vehicle, Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary, actor Mark Wahlberg, and Ford CEO Jim Farley.



A car aficionado, he told Fox News Digital that he owns a used 2019 Tesla for driving around Los Angeles, California.

And even in electric vehicle-friendly California, he’s had problems with it.

“There’s still some issues with the [mileage] range,” MacDonald explained. “I think that’s probably the primary issue that a lot of people have. I feel like Americans in particular, we like to go on trips, we like to travel far.”

Americans want a vehicle that will let them take a road trip.

“America needs a car that can allow them to go to Yosemite if they want to go. And essentially, the root of the problem is the charging networks,” MacDonald added. “And Tesla is far ahead of everyone else.”

Even Teslas have challenges that come with ownership
The TikTok star said that he originally bought a Tesla because it was a “status symbol” with its high price tag and cutting-edge technology.

But he’s running into problems like charging, jump-starting, and towing the popular electric vehicle brand.

“If you don’t have an at-home charger, or your apartment doesn’t have one, then you have to every couple of days literally physically get in your car, drive to a station, and then wait for it to charge,” MacDonald said. “I liked it a lot more when I had accessible charging. Now it’s kind of a pain.”

He added that he lucked out by having a supercharger about half a mile from where he lives but said not everyone had that luxury.

MacDonald explained that he dealt with a nightmare scenario when had to jump-start his Tesla after he left it sitting.

“I often travel for various shoots and whatnot, and sometimes I’ll be gone for several weeks at a time, and sometimes my Tesla will just sit there and lose battery while I’m gone . . . So that happened one time when I was in my garage, I’m next to my charger, this was when I used to live in my old building that had a charger . . . but when it dies, it won’t even allow you to charge it,” MacDonald explained.

He said he called Tesla but the automaker told him he was out of luck.

“I don’t know why they were kind of hiding this information, but I look up online through various sources a way to potentially jump-start the Tesla, and I jump it, and then it actually does turn on after I leave it going for a little bit,” MacDonald continued. “But then I had to go bring it in for service because something messed up with the battery. So it’s either you have to tow it, or you have to bring it in for service.”

Because of the car’s immense weight from the electric battery, it cost him nearly $1,000 to have it towed.

The reality of owning an electric vehicle isn’t anything like supporters would have people believe.
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Herb wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:38 pm
https://rightnewswire.com/a-social-medi ... t=1274_rnw

A social media influencer revealed this painful reality about electric vehicle ownership
April 26, 2024 Cat2, Economy

Because of the car’s immense weight from the electric battery, it cost him nearly $1,000 to have it towed.

The reality of owning an electric vehicle isn’t anything like supporters would have people believe.
Yep,...All we hear abnd see ...IS ALL LIES!

WE ARE BEING TOLD LIE,...AFTER LIE,...AFTER LIE.. ABOUT all OF THIS EV'S SHIT.

The..."news media"...is complicit in this LIE CAMPAIGN.

It is all propaganda ...... being promoted as some sort of.."fix"...for YET ANOTHER LIE... global climate crisis.


ALL OF IT IS LIES
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