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Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:01 pm
by Deedubforum
I’ve been working on this bike for a minute and I rebuilt the carbs etc but then came across a parts bike which I bought, my bike is a 94 the parts bike was a 05, the parts from the 05 were much cleaner and seemingly better so I used the rear carb from the 05 and kept my 94 up front, could this be the reason I can’t get even 1%throttle? I still have the original jets from the old rear carb can I just swap them out ?

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:18 pm
by hillsy v2
Did you clean the new carb?

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:45 pm
by Deedubforum
hillsy v2 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:18 pm
Did you clean the new carb?
Yes it’s clean

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:19 pm
by hillsy v2
Deedubforum wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:45 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:18 pm
Did you clean the new carb?
Yes it’s clean
OK - what level of clean are we talking? Pulled the float bowl and rinsed out the sediment....or pulled all the jets and blew out all the passages with compressed and carb cleaner? Carbs that have been sitting with old fuel can get clogged up pilot circuits in very short order.

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:48 pm
by Deedubforum
Yea I completely cleaned it but it was sitting for about a month maybe I’ll clean it again I just figured it hadn’t been that long

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:56 am
by hillsy v2
Deedubforum wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:48 pm
Yea I completely cleaned it but it was sitting for about a month maybe I’ll clean it again I just figured it hadn’t been that long
The unknown is how long those carbs might have been sitting before you got them. They might have looked good and you might have cleaned them...but not got all the crap out.

A lot of people have good results with ultrasonic cleaners which are pretty cheap nowadays- might be something to try.

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
by Lechy
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

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Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:23 pm
by Deedubforum
Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

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Hmm yea I didn’t know what those holes were I’ll definitely look into ‘em

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:29 pm
by Deedubforum
Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Well would ya look at that, I looked at the carb and there was no pilot jet period lol I’m gonna put the one from mine in and see what happens

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:32 pm
by Deedubforum
Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Hey man so I took my front carb off again and in the book there’s a pilot jet and that was clogged but it’s not the one your picture shows? Is there two pilot jets, the one that I unclogged was the one with a tube on the end with 4 holes in it

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:16 pm
by Lechy
The one I indicated is the air jet, the one you cleaned is the fuel jet.

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:01 am
by Herb
The fuel and lubrication section of the manual has a diagram of the fuel and air flows inside the carb. It is really helpful infigureing out where everything is.

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:34 am
by Deedubforum
Lechy wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:16 pm
The one I indicated is the air jet, the one you cleaned is the fuel jet.
Right okay that makes sense, so good news I cleaned all of them. The bike does run now and idle, and rev however it’s been very difficult to start after sitting overnight, I wouldn’t say it’s cold it’s still about 80 in the morning here in Phoenix and I have to crank for a while, is it possible the carbs being out of sync would cause that? Once it’s warm they are very responsive and seem fine. A lot of people point to the choke but mine seems to work fine as it raises the rpms when I pull it all the way out. I also noticed if I open the throttle maybe 5% and hold it there it starts to break up all I can think of is it being out of sync

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:19 pm
by Lechy
Do you turn the petcock off when you have finished riding? Have you fitted the overflow hoses? the reason I ask is that the fuel can evaporate out of the carbs and the fuel pump only works when the engine is cranking or running. I overcame this problem by taking a feed wire from the orange/(white) wire going to the CDI box. This allows the pump to work with the key, in an emergency the pump can be shut down with the kill switch.
A synch and AF adjustment never goes amiss.

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:22 am
by Deedubforum
Lechy wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:19 pm
Do you turn the petcock off when you have finished riding? Have you fitted the overflow hoses? the reason I ask is that the fuel can evaporate out of the carbs and the fuel pump only works when the engine is cranking or running. I overcame this problem by taking a feed wire from the orange/(white) wire going to the CDI box. This allows the pump to work with the key, in an emergency the pump can be shut down with the kill switch.
A synch and AF adjustment never goes amiss.
You make a super solid point, yea I don’t have anything connected to the vent hoses, or overflow nipples I should probably figure those out, I got my vacuum port adapters and am gonna build a manometer tomorrow to sync the carbs I’ll let you know what I find

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:03 am
by Lechy