Carb switch possible issue

Post Reply
User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

I’ve been working on this bike for a minute and I rebuilt the carbs etc but then came across a parts bike which I bought, my bike is a 94 the parts bike was a 05, the parts from the 05 were much cleaner and seemingly better so I used the rear carb from the 05 and kept my 94 up front, could this be the reason I can’t get even 1%throttle? I still have the original jets from the old rear carb can I just swap them out ?
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

User avatar
hillsy v2
Bike out of hock
Posts: 3038
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:35 pm
My Bike: Too many to list

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by hillsy v2 »

Did you clean the new carb?

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

hillsy v2 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:18 pm
Did you clean the new carb?
Yes it’s clean
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

User avatar
hillsy v2
Bike out of hock
Posts: 3038
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:35 pm
My Bike: Too many to list

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by hillsy v2 »

Deedubforum wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:45 pm
hillsy v2 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:18 pm
Did you clean the new carb?
Yes it’s clean
OK - what level of clean are we talking? Pulled the float bowl and rinsed out the sediment....or pulled all the jets and blew out all the passages with compressed and carb cleaner? Carbs that have been sitting with old fuel can get clogged up pilot circuits in very short order.

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Yea I completely cleaned it but it was sitting for about a month maybe I’ll clean it again I just figured it hadn’t been that long
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

User avatar
hillsy v2
Bike out of hock
Posts: 3038
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:35 pm
My Bike: Too many to list

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by hillsy v2 »

Deedubforum wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:48 pm
Yea I completely cleaned it but it was sitting for about a month maybe I’ll clean it again I just figured it hadn’t been that long
The unknown is how long those carbs might have been sitting before you got them. They might have looked good and you might have cleaned them...but not got all the crap out.

A lot of people have good results with ultrasonic cleaners which are pretty cheap nowadays- might be something to try.

Lechy
Joined a 1000cc Club
Posts: 3967
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 pm
My Bike: VS800 Honda Phantom 200

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Lechy »

Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Grow old disgracefully young man.

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Hmm yea I didn’t know what those holes were I’ll definitely look into ‘em
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Well would ya look at that, I looked at the carb and there was no pilot jet period lol I’m gonna put the one from mine in and see what happens
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Lechy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:26 am
Often overlooked are the pilot air jets.

Image
Hey man so I took my front carb off again and in the book there’s a pilot jet and that was clogged but it’s not the one your picture shows? Is there two pilot jets, the one that I unclogged was the one with a tube on the end with 4 holes in it
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

Lechy
Joined a 1000cc Club
Posts: 3967
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 pm
My Bike: VS800 Honda Phantom 200

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Lechy »

The one I indicated is the air jet, the one you cleaned is the fuel jet.
Grow old disgracefully young man.

User avatar
Herb
Joined a 1200cc Club
Posts: 19277
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:28 pm
My Bike: 1999 1400 intruder

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Herb »

The fuel and lubrication section of the manual has a diagram of the fuel and air flows inside the carb. It is really helpful infigureing out where everything is.
I can't seem to win the lottery. I think I have used up all of my good luck riding motorcycles.

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Lechy wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:16 pm
The one I indicated is the air jet, the one you cleaned is the fuel jet.
Right okay that makes sense, so good news I cleaned all of them. The bike does run now and idle, and rev however it’s been very difficult to start after sitting overnight, I wouldn’t say it’s cold it’s still about 80 in the morning here in Phoenix and I have to crank for a while, is it possible the carbs being out of sync would cause that? Once it’s warm they are very responsive and seem fine. A lot of people point to the choke but mine seems to work fine as it raises the rpms when I pull it all the way out. I also noticed if I open the throttle maybe 5% and hold it there it starts to break up all I can think of is it being out of sync
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

Lechy
Joined a 1000cc Club
Posts: 3967
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 pm
My Bike: VS800 Honda Phantom 200

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Lechy »

Do you turn the petcock off when you have finished riding? Have you fitted the overflow hoses? the reason I ask is that the fuel can evaporate out of the carbs and the fuel pump only works when the engine is cranking or running. I overcame this problem by taking a feed wire from the orange/(white) wire going to the CDI box. This allows the pump to work with the key, in an emergency the pump can be shut down with the kill switch.
A synch and AF adjustment never goes amiss.
Grow old disgracefully young man.

User avatar
Deedubforum
Studying MC Handbook
Posts: 72
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:05 pm
My Bike: 96 intruder 800 epa edition

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Deedubforum »

Lechy wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:19 pm
Do you turn the petcock off when you have finished riding? Have you fitted the overflow hoses? the reason I ask is that the fuel can evaporate out of the carbs and the fuel pump only works when the engine is cranking or running. I overcame this problem by taking a feed wire from the orange/(white) wire going to the CDI box. This allows the pump to work with the key, in an emergency the pump can be shut down with the kill switch.
A synch and AF adjustment never goes amiss.
You make a super solid point, yea I don’t have anything connected to the vent hoses, or overflow nipples I should probably figure those out, I got my vacuum port adapters and am gonna build a manometer tomorrow to sync the carbs I’ll let you know what I find
Not a goodbye , an I’ll see ya later :cheers:

Lechy
Joined a 1000cc Club
Posts: 3967
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 pm
My Bike: VS800 Honda Phantom 200

Re: Carb switch possible issue

Post by Lechy »

Grow old disgracefully young man.

Post Reply