So you had a ratchet strap over the wires?
I'd say you have a short because of that.
So you unplug the neutral wire and the light goes off - you plug it in and the light stays on all the time?
Correct. But yours isn't doing that because it is grounding in the wiring somewhere.
but, but, but,...I was told this.
Ah! So on the 800 that switch is over on that side.
Could there be a problem with the wires that are hidden under the Protective Covering?
I pulled the cover up but can't remove it completely because of the radiator pipe that's in the way. I was able to move the wires back and forth though and I pulled on each with no effect. Today I'm going to disconnect the blue and black wires from the plastic connector, tie a peice of string go the end of each wire then feed them through to get a better look. If there's no problem with them I will pull them back through with the string.Designer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:56 amAh! So on the 800 that switch is over on that side.
Thanks' Lechy.
So, the Test I am proposing might be altered to look for a possible short to the Black Wire of the two wires of the Side Stand Switch,...that are not connected to the "removed" switch, but are still connected to the Harness.
Recalling what you said before;Could there be a problem with the wires that are hidden under the Protective Covering?
Are you talking about this hose with the steel bend and protective coil sheathing or the chrome pipe at the rear of the pic?
So I pulled the wires today and the long black wire going to the oil pressure sensor was frayed which I repaired. That did not solve the issue. When I pull the green wire the light does go off. When I pull the blue/black wires the light does not go off. The blue/black wires are supposed to be to the neutral switch, and the green/black white go to the kickstand relay which has been bypassed. There is definitely a short but I cannot find the source. I removed all the wires from where they are routed through underneath the starter motor cover and then removed the sheath and there was no crimping/fraying anywhere along the length of the wires like I found on the oil pressure sensor wire. I've got a new neutral sensor coming in the mail so I'll see if that fixes the issue. Tried doing my own repairs to this one with no luck. Going to have fun with feeding those wires around everything again when the new neutral switch comes in. . . wish there was an easier way to do it.Designer wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:42 amI like your Tenacity here.
May I suggest this,....instead of performing this " extraction" operation to inspect the Wires, let's first run a simple test,.... why not disconnect those Side Stand Switch Wires from the Harness?
If they are shorting-to-ground and making the Neutral Light come on, wouldn't doing that "disconnect" their shorting?
Yes I'm talking about the chrome pipe in the rear of the pic. The screw directly underneath it hits the bottom of it and I cant remove the starter motor cover because of it. Is it possible I bent the pipe down slightly when I had the winch strap over it causing this issue? I could try bending it back up slightly?hillsy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:26 pmAre you talking about this hose with the steel bend and protective coil sheathing or the chrome pipe at the rear of the pic?
the front hose is your clutch hose. And it looks like it's been bent down right on top of the starter motor cover.
I would suggest you remove the slave cylinder, remove the starter motor cover and check the wiring for the neutral / side stand switch at the entry point under the starter motor cover. That sheathing is heat resistant and you can easily crush the wires inside without any evidence of damage to the outside sheathing.
Yes I would say you would have bent that pipe if you had a ratchet strap over it - which would explain the fluid leak. You should be able to pry it up enough to get the cover bolt out.Acton67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:48 pm
Yes I'm talking about the chrome pipe in the rear of the pic. The screw directly underneath it hits the bottom of it and I cant remove the starter motor cover because of it. Is it possible I bent the pipe down slightly when I had the winch strap over it causing this issue? I could try bending it back up slightly?
Yeah its not leaking anymore but I didn't think that it might have been bent down slightly still. Being able to take that cover off will make it a lot easier to route the new neutral switch through easier.hillsy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:57 pmYes I would say you would have bent that pipe if you had a ratchet strap over it - which would explain the fluid leak. You should be able to pry it up enough to get the cover bolt out.Acton67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:48 pm
Yes I'm talking about the chrome pipe in the rear of the pic. The screw directly underneath it hits the bottom of it and I cant remove the starter motor cover because of it. Is it possible I bent the pipe down slightly when I had the winch strap over it causing this issue? I could try bending it back up slightly?
I have been thinking about your predicament ever since I read what you posted above;Acton67 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:03 amSo on my way to work this morning I was thinking about how the kickstand switch is the probable culprit of the short. Instead of using the kickstand bypass at the switch I'm going to make a new bypass right at the main harness so the only power in will be through the blue wire to the neutral switch. I will do this tomorrow and report back. At work today unfortunately.
Acton67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:48 pmSo I pulled the wires today and the long black wire going to the oil pressure sensor was frayed which I repaired. That did not solve the issue. When I pull the green wire the light does go off. When I pull the blue/black wires the light does not go off. The blue/black wires are supposed to be to the neutral switch, and the green/black white go to the kickstand relay which has been bypassed. There is definitely a short but I cannot find the source. I removed all the wires from where they are routed through underneath the starter motor cover and then removed the sheath and there was no crimping/fraying anywhere along the length of the wires like I found on the oil pressure sensor wire. I've got a new neutral sensor coming in the mail so I'll see if that fixes the issue. Tried doing my own repairs to this one with no luck. Going to have fun with feeding those wires around everything again when the new neutral switch comes in. . . wish there was an easier way to do it.
I pulled the green wire off the main harness.Designer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:54 pmWhen you say you... "pull the green wire"...are you speaking of moving just the Green Wire in this picture, or are you also moving the Green Wire that goes up towards the Main Wiring Harness also?
The bypass placed by the shop last spring was at the switch here.
That's kinda-sorta, what I thought happened.