01 VS1400 starter relay

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b37mech
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01 VS1400 starter relay

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Hi,

I have an 01 VS1400 with starter relay issues. It keeps sticking and will not disengage the starter even when I push the kill switch, turn off the key, put kick stand down, etc. The starter relay is sticking closed. I have fried 2 new relays so far. I bought the cheaper ones off of amazon. Also, can someone please give me a picture of how the started relay is installed? I know how the larger gauge wires are installed, but am unsure of how the smaller gauge (black/yellow & black/white stripe) wires are installed. The motorcycle will start with the smaller wires either way. Thank you in advance.

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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It's a DC coil, energizes either way. I would be looking at cleaning up the starter switch they can sometimes get crudded up and sticky.

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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Thank you! I was looking at the wiring diagram (again) and you are correct, it is doesn't matter the hook-up. I already verified that the starter switch is cleaned and not sticking. I am thinking cheap starter relay or bad ground on battery?

Also, do you or anyone else know if I can splice in a generic starter generator from a vehicle until I can get a new one?

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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Both my Intruders have generic solenoids but not from Amazon or Ebay.
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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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Where did you get them from? Part number please.

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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I just took my old one to an autoparts store and they supplied me with one of a similar size, same with my fuel pumps.

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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Thank you! I will do the same. I just got finished talking to another cycle rider and he said a friend of had the same issue as me and it turned out to be a bad ground to the frame from the battery. It was powder coated. I will check the same when I get home.

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Re: 01 VS1400 starter relay

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Is the issue here the solenoid, or a relay? A relay is usually a small device that transfers electrical power by tripping, but usually the same amperage and on the same circuit (like a fuel pump or a low amp light), whereas a solenoid trips over to a different circuit of usually higher amperage capacity needed for a electrical motor. The use of a solenoid avoids running heavy wires to/from start switches. I know the Intruder has a solenoid, but I'm not sure about having a relay and what the purpose would be. I know there are relays involved in the start process, but that's due to the decompression unit needing to click on and off.

If the key is turned off I don't see how a bad/sticky/start thumb switch would still power the solenoid, but if the solenoid was to stick closed, then the starter is going to run until electrical power is discontinued. Is the issue here a defective solenoid that is sticking closed? And if the action of the solenoid can operate the stater, then I don't see how the ground could be faulty.

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