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Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 3:55 pm
by Archer
Hi all,
My petcock filters deteriorated on my 05 S83. Any idea on where to rebuild this petcock, or should I just buy a new one for $40?
Thanks
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 4:09 pm
by FallenAngel
Archer wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:55 pm
Hi all,
My petcock filters deteriorated on my 05 S83. Any idea on where to rebuild this petcock, or should I just buy a new one for $40?
Thanks
I didnt know you could buy them for the 1400's anymore
Where did you find them for $40????
I did find the petcock online
Probably wouldnt be a bad idea to have a spare on hand
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:42 pm
by Archer
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:23 pm
by Designer
Good find! I know I had much trouble trying to find Replacement Filters back when I was modifying my Tanks.
I bought a used Fuel Cock from a Motorcycle Bone Yard and took the filters off.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:51 pm
by hillsy
Best filters by far are the cardboard inline type. Straight after the fuel tap and before the fuel pump.
The gauze on the fuel tap is pretty much to stop rocks.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:12 pm
by FinTruder
Also label called tourmax do petcocks.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:11 am
by Designer
FinTruder wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:12 pm
Also label called tourmax do petcocks.
Good Researching there FinTruder. I will make note of them also.
In all the 24 years I have been Modifying/Chopping and Riding 1400's I have found there's no need for any other filtering other than these In-Tank Fuel Cock Filters,.....they're all you really need.
And now I have two sources for them. Thanks~!
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 6:20 am
by hillsy
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:11 am
In all the 24 years I have been Modifying/Chopping and Riding 1400's I have found there's no need for any other filtering other than these In-Tank Fuel Cock Filters,.....they're all you really need.
Yeah that's great but pretty much every other carb'd bike with a fuel pump runs a paper element filter so maybe there's something in that.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 7:09 am
by FinTruder
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:11 am
FinTruder wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:12 pm
Also label called tourmax do petcocks.
Good Researching there FinTruder. I will make note of them also.
In all the 24 years I have been Modifying/Chopping and Riding 1400's I have found there's no need for any other filtering other than these In-Tank Fuel Cock Filters,.....they're all you really need.
And now I have two sources for them. Thanks~!
I'm trying to give a view from little different angle. For some reason word "petcock" is very unusual term for this part, never heard before this year and I've been using english for decades. When seeking it from listings Asian and european retailers use words "gasoline valve" "petrol valve" "fuel selector" "Fuel Control" or even "fuel cock"
So i mean when people are searching specific part especially for foreign vehicles you may want to use different words with searching.
Edit. I guess I'm lucky to be Fin. There is only one word for this part
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 9:38 am
by FallenAngel
Thats the same unit I found
When you mentioned you found one for $40 I was hoping you meant the screens and it was a bag of them
Sense my valves work Ill stick to the in line filters and watch for debris in the filter
The screen is just meant to keep the crap from in side the tank from contaminating the fuel system and gumming up the fuel selector and pump and because the 1400s have a remote fuel selector. Looks cool put complicated design
One of the things I would change if I build a larger tank for these bikes
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:12 am
by Archer
Ahh man, my bad. Ya, that would be nice to just have some replacement filters for $40. Do you mind posting a link to these in-line filter y'all are talking about. Been out of the intruder game for 10 years. Also, yes Fin-truder, good search hacks are always necessary for an efficient search. Good advice, ill keep that in mind.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:01 pm
by Designer
My experience has been that the Fuel Cock Screens are quite adequate for the job of Fuel Filtering.
When I have replaced my Jets (due to being ovalled by the Needle) there was no debris/residue/crud in either of the Float Bowls. And neither have I needed to take apart the Carbs and Clean the Internal Passages in the Carb Body due to said-same debris/crud blocking them (kinda-cuz there wasn't any)
I put one of those In-line Filters on my Springtail Chopper because I was told to Tank Screens don't do an good enough job.
I checked it every year,....and it never showed any evidence of any dirt/debris/crud/etc. at all.
The Screens caught whatever/if there was.
Confucius say:...A waste of Money, Work and Time.
Did I mention,...Money?
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:20 pm
by Designer
This conversation caused me to get a-thinkin',....and I recall my buying a couple of them some years ago.
So I went to my trusty & reliable Source,...Ebay Store....and found these Dandy 'Lil Gems;
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/261611822640?ha ... SwVFlUKusz
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291144216225
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114010546255
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261611822640
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372560692136
https://www.ebay.com/itm/114010545999
A lot less $$$ that the Whole Pet Cock too.
Hope this helps Ya, Archer and FallenAngel.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:24 pm
by FallenAngel
I talked to one of the parts guys at Everett Power sports and it seems Suzuki never offered the screens as a replaceable part and only show the fuel shut off valve in the parts book.
I like the idea of having that screen in my tank but cant see replacing the shut off valve because I cant find the screens. I can live with an inline filter
Ill try and cross check other manufactures that offer the in tank screen and post my findings
If any one else can do the same that would be great
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:28 pm
by Designer
FallenAngel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:24 pm
I talked to one of the parts guys at Everett Power sports and it seems Suzuki never offered the screens as a replaceable part and only show the fuel shut off valve in the parts book.
I like the idea of having that screen in my tank but cant see replacing the shut off valve because I cant find the screens. I can live with an inline filter
Ill try and cross check other manufactures that offer the in tank screen and post my findings
If any one else can do the same that would be great
see above ?
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 12:44 pm
by FallenAngel
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:28 pm
see above ?
Yes You posted while I was typing
Good find but no dimensions just seemed to be vehicle specific
Not sure if that is important or not as it shouldn't be to hard to make it secure
I did see a wire mesh kit on the last link that was promising though
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 1:04 pm
by Archer
Nice, Designer
Those are hard enough to find on their own. I don't know why mine deteriorated so badly, so it'll be nice to have a reliable replacement source. Thanks!!!
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 3:45 pm
by hillsy
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:01 pm
My experience has been that the Fuel Cock Screens are quite adequate for the job of Fuel Filtering.
When I have replaced my Jets (due to being ovalled by the Needle) there was no debris/residue/crud in either of the Float Bowls. And neither have I needed to take apart the Carbs and Clean the Internal Passages in the Carb Body due to said-same debris/crud blocking them (kinda-cuz there wasn't any)
I put one of those In-line Filters on my Springtail Chopper because I was told to Tank Screens don't do an good enough job.
I checked it every year,....and it never showed any evidence of any dirt/debris/crud/etc. at all.
The Screens caught whatever/if there was.
Confucius say:...A waste of Money, Work and Time.
Did I mention,...Money?
Well I guess the manufacturers don't know as much as you do when it comes to filter application.
I put a Pingel inline filter on my LC when I rejetted as all reports said they were great and re-usable. So I cleaned it out every service time and found very little in the way of crud in there. Next time I had the carbs off there was a healthy (unhealthy?) amount of sediment in the bowls. I went back to a disposable cardboard element / cartridge filter and saw almost no sediment in the bowls again.
It's the same with the gauze on the fuel taps - they will stop larger particles but won't filter the finer sediment. They are designed that way otherwise they will clog up too easily.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:42 pm
by Designer
FallenAngel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:44 pm
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:28 pm
see above ?
Yes You posted while I was typing
Good find but no dimensions just seemed to be vehicle specific
Not sure if that is important or not as it shouldn't be to hard to make it secure
I did see a wire mesh kit on the last link that was promising though
I see that we were,...."two ships passing in the night",...so to speak.
I am fairly confident that if you contact these suppliers, they would give you any dimensional info you seek. I've had pretty good success doing so.
If not, I sense you are quite capable of making them fit and stay in place.
Re: Where to replace deteriorated petcock filter?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:33 am
by Designer
Archer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 1:04 pm
Nice, Designer Those are hard enough to find on their own.
I don't know why mine deteriorated so badly, so it'll be nice to have a reliable replacement source. Thanks!!!
You are most welcome!
I like helping others.
Maybe your Tank Filter went bad from getting beat up by all the rocks rattling around inside the tank they are good for stopping?
Just a thought
And I have found that the Aftermarket Replacement Fuel Cock Filters work just as well as the Original Manufactured ones do. And since the Manufacturers and Professional Engineers who designed/made the 1400 know more about filtering that any mechanic says, I'll go with their choices. After all, their choices proved good as using them has resulted in my experiences here;
Designer wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 12:01 pm
My experience has been that the Fuel Cock Screens are quite adequate for the job of Fuel Filtering.
When I have replaced my Jets (due to being ovalled by the Needle) there was no debris/residue/crud in either of the Float Bowls. And neither have I needed to take apart the Carbs and Clean the Internal Passages in the Carb Body due to said-same debris/crud blocking them (kinda-cuz there wasn't any)
I put one of those In-line Filters on my Springtail Chopper because I was told to Tank Screens don't do an good enough job. I checked it every year,....and it never showed any evidence of any dirt/debris/crud/etc. at all.
The Screens caught whatever/if there was.
Confucius say:...A waste of Money, Work and Time. Did I mention,...Money?